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Is it possible for the USA to become a Communist nation?

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Is it possible for the USA to become a Communist nation?

Mensaje por Lazaro Morera el Vie Sep 16, 2011 11:20 am

The present situation.
15.1% of americans live in poverty or about 46.2 million people.

Middle class wealth fell in 2010. The middle class family income, adjusted for infletion, only earned 11% in 2010 than it did in1980, compared to a 42% increase for the richest 5% of american families. The income has shifted to the top.

The poverty rate among children under age 18 increase to 22% in 2010. Blacks families had the highest poverty rate at 27.4% followed by hispanics at 26.6%. People lacking health insurance increased to 49.9 million last year.

The political situation can only be described by "polarization". The influence of the tea party in Republican politics has increased significantly. Social security has beendescribed as a Ponzi (fradulent) scheme. The republican party has recently scored victories in tradtiionally democratic areas of Mass. and N Y.

Due to the 9% level of unemployment and the gridlock in Washinton, there is an increasing dissatisfaction with Washington in general and President Barack Obama in particular.

2013 and 2014
Let's assume that the Republican party presidential candidate wins the 2012 election and implements the spending cuts promissed by the present field of republican presidential runners. What would take place from 2013 and 2014? How will the the poverty and american families without insurance statistics be impacted? I belive that any unbiased person will agree that, in 2013 and 2014,after the November 2012 election, all american families in poverty, and without insurance will be much worse. What will happen in our large urban centers?

The situation I describe is PERFECT for an extreme candidate of the left to takeover. If you think Barack Obama is a socialist, you have not seen anything yet. If you think Srnator Bernie Sanders (an indepent socalist) is a communist, you have not seen anything yet. Remenber that police, fire fighters and teachers unions are under attack in Ohio and Wisconsin by republican governors. I am talking from experience. I lived under communism for 2 years.

I am very much afraid that the dissaperence of Moderates in both the Republican and the Democrat parties will be the prelude to a Communist takeover of America.

Lazaro Morera

All statics were taken from Poverty rate rises in America CNN.com












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Re: Is it possible for the USA to become a Communist nation?

Mensaje por cubivallejo el Vie Sep 16, 2011 2:31 pm

Obama is taking the nation down the road to fascism. He didn't start the journey, but he has accelerated it tremendously, at a time of extreme vulnerability in our society (for many reasons).

He STILL reminds me a lot of Castro in 1959, allowing for time, cultural, and geographic differences.

Time will tell, and I hope for the best, but count me on the side of the pessimists.

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Re: Is it possible for the USA to become a Communist nation?

Mensaje por Lazaro Morera el Vie Sep 16, 2011 4:43 pm

INTERESTINGS POVERTY AND HOUSEHOLD INCOME STATISTICS

The goverment defines the poverty as income of $22,314/yr or less for a family of 4, and $11,139/yr. for an individual. Income used to calculate poverty included earnings, workers comp, social security,unemployment insurance, interests and dividends, and about any other source of cash. It does not include capital gains.Food stamps and subsidized rent do not count as income.

The bottom 60% of american households saw theirs income decrease in 2010. Hoseholds making $100,000 or more enjoyed a rise in income.

Family headed by a married couple had 6.2% poverty rate, while families with a single mother had 31.6% poverty.

Poverty in the South.
The south had the highest poverty level with 16.9% of households while the northeast had the lowest at 12.8%.

I provide you with these statistics to make sure we know what poverty means. How would you live is your income was $11, 139 or less per year? That is less than $1,000 per month. How much would you have left after paying for food and rent?

I rember how american cities exploded and burnt in the 60s during the years of civil rights unrest. Are we going to see something similar in 2013?

I would also like you to consider "the middle Class". This is an abstract term because most of all think of ourselves as members of the middle class. When I think of the middle class, I think for example, of a firefighter earning about $50,000 per year to support a family of 4. I also think of a social security empty nesters making $30,000 to $50,000 per year. These are members of the middle class,and they are the ones that will be impacted by the budget cuts being discussed in the republican presidential debates.

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lm






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Re: Is it possible for the USA to become a Communist nation?

Mensaje por Martin Fierro el Sáb Sep 17, 2011 7:15 am

Ahora, yo no me explico esto: ¿POR QUE van a buscar los food stamps en carrro y con un telefono celular?

Esto no es mas que la lucha de clases propuesta, fomentada y exacerbada por el Turdo en Jefe

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Re: Is it possible for the USA to become a Communist nation?

Mensaje por Lazaro Morera el Dom Sep 18, 2011 11:08 am

Statistics are unbiased. They are facts. Different people will use facts and statistics for different purposes. One can have different opinions about the interpretation of these statistics, for instance $11,319/yr. OR LESS for an in dividual living in Mississipi buys more than the same amount for an individual living in LA or NY City. The fact remains that most people, no matter where they live, will be in poverty with this level income. They have the option of buying a cellphone,an old Cadillac, get drunk of cheap wine, or try to get OUT of poverty. However, getting out of poverty won't be easy.

For me what is important is what will occur in OUR country and what will happpen to my family, after Nov. 2012. Wheather we all like it or not, we live in the great USA.

lm.

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Re: Is it possible for the USA to become a Communist nation?

Mensaje por Lazaro Morera el Dom Sep 18, 2011 12:06 pm

Wheather we like it or NOT we all live in the great USA.

The efficacy of goverme expenditures of goverment programs design to hel[ poor families get out poverty.

This is an extrimely controversial topic. Many argue that (1) we shouldn't spend money we do not have. Others argue (2) that we should spend goverment aid money only in programs that have a clear payback. I am in group 2. Why am I in group 2? As cuban political refugee i was in poverty when I came to the USA and sought political refugee status. I worked as a Janitor. Then I applied for a goverment low interest loan that helped me graduate with an Engineering degree from a major University. I worked my way thru school.Nedless to say that I paid ALL the losn and the interest on the loan. Had I not had this loan I might have been a janitor for many more years.

The point is that when a family gets out of poverty by means of some goverment help, the goverment gets its money back thru the taxes the family pays after being a contributing member of society. Therefore, the issue is how to measure and use the efficacy of these programs, al opposed to whether we should have these programs in the first place. I agree that programs having No or Low efficacy should be terminated to eliminate goverment waste.

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Re: Is it possible for the USA to become a Communist nation?

Mensaje por Lazaro Morera el Lun Sep 19, 2011 10:26 pm

I need to explain why I started this subject. I see the socioeconomic situation and political polarization in America as the number #1 potential peoblem for the survival of our American Democracy. The movement to the extreme right of the Republican party, combined with the implementation of expending cuts without revenue increases will in fact promote "class warfare". IF the middle class once again carries al the burdens of the spending cuts, while millionares and billonares pay a less taxes as % of the income than the middle class, we may see a NATIONAL REVOLT. This revolt will start in the innercities with the poorest americans. It is possible to see our innercities in flames. This is the ideal enviroment for a communist to emerge as possible third party candidate, or within the extreme left of the democratic party. I am not talking about Obama. As I said before, if you think Obama is a socialist you have seen what a real communist demagogue can do. I hope and I am wrong, but this scenario is very real. My only hope is for the political establishment of both parties to insist in centrist candidates with a moderate platform.


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